Rick Simpson Interview
By Ron Niehouse (MCJ) (California)
RN: Why do you think that law enforcement waited you were actually in Europe before they raided your property?
RS: I think it was ordered straight from the top. Law enforcement knew. Last summer I was on a big radio show in maritime. I told the whole maritime’s that I was growing it. It was no secret. Actually the RCMP was sending people to me. They knew they can’t, so there’s no real question that they knew. When I left to Amsterdam, I think the orders coming straight from Ottawa and then raided. The raid was ridiculous. Everything they said was a pack of lies. They were going on about booby-traps. There were two or three garbage bags on my back deck and my son had but a few nails in boards around the garbage bags so that the bears wouldn’t get into them. That was the so-called booby-traps. They went on about 70 pounds of hemp in the house. There was nothing growing at my house. It had been harvested. I had produced the medicine, and then distributed it. When I’m done with the plant material, when I’m done washing the medicine off… I just take remaining plant material and throw it out in the backyard as compost. So when the police came in, they found garbage bags and dug up the compost from my backyard and that's their 70 pounds.
RN: That’s incredible.
RS: The whole thing was just a pack of lies. They said something about restricted weapons. The only thing I had in that house when I left was a pellet gun, which is totally legal. My son had brought down his crossbow and done some target shooting while I was gone. The crossbow is legal too. So there were no restricted weapons found. RCMP Are a bunch of crooks.
RN: As you said, the RCMP had sent people to you. At what point do you think their minds changed and decided to go the other direction. What made them change so much?
RS: I think possibly just an order from Ottawa. I’m willing to bet right now, if you took a poll of the RCMP around the area I lived in Nova Scotia you will find 75% of them are in favor of what I’m doing. There is a small percentage of, these egg-heads that they give guns that will go do anything. I think that’s what they did.
RN: Right. It’s very unfortunate and we’re very sorry to hear about everything that has happened.
RS: I have no intentions of going back to Canada. I’m planning on staying here in Europe.
RN: Yeah, I wouldn’t either. How is it in Europe? Are you being treated well?
RS: Oh yes, I’m here with friends. The money is a bit tight because I don’t have much to live on over here, but I’m in good hands. It’s not bad. As I understand it right now I was talking to my son just the other day and he said that he thought that I actually could come back to Canada if I wanted because of what they did. They don’t really have a case.
RN: You think you have a strong case?
RS: What is the point of going back to Canada? It’s restricted, there’s no research going on there at all. I’m probably better off over here in Europe. At least they are doing some research over here.
RN: I was going to say, most of Europe does seem to have a bit different attitude toward cannabinoid research.
RS: They are much more open-minded over here.
RN: You are spending time up there now. Are you seeing any promising companies working to make Cannabinoids available to those who may need it?
RS: What I’m trying to do is… I’ve been in touch with several research groups over here. There is a fair bit of research going on. I’m hoping to try to get involved with these groups very shortly. I just wrote the book, the manuscript of the book about this whole thing. I’m doing some articles now. I just sent out two articles today to Weed World in England. I’m hoping I’ll be able to sustain myself. The problem with this is that its all so simple brother. When I do these big internet things and seminars, I help people and they don’t believe a word I’m saying. Simply grown, I can take 1 ounce of that bud and make the oil from it, and go put it on a diabetic ulcer or skin cancer and see what happens. Anybody can prove it.
RN: It is absolutely apparent that in the west, at least, it really is about revenue and profits. Profits are far more important than life is it not?
RS: North America is probably the most corrupted place on earth. It’s just awful what is going on over there. I don’t know what’s going to happen. The longer this truth is kept from the people, the worse that they are going to be in the end. I don’t know what’s going to happen.
RN: That’s a scary thought.
RS: I don’t want to see anarchy, and I don’t want to see people out there trying to seek retribution. Truth is, we are all guilty in this. We’ve all sat there and watched the governments take our rights away and none of us have done a thing.
RN: That’s true.
RS: Part of the reason that we are in this position is because we did nothing ourselves.
RN: Good point. The fact is Rick, you have found a cure for cancer. It must be incredibly frustrating to be treated this way. You’ve been run out of your own country. It is really simple to see who is doing the right thing.
RS: I never claimed that I found the cure for cancer. What I tell people is that they have known how to cure cancer for the past 150 years. That is the absolute truth. They have known. The only thing I can actually claim is that I treated a wide variety of skin cancer. I’ve also treated MS, and all kinds of other diseases. This oil just works like magic. The only thing I can actually say is that I’m the first one to grow the tree of life and report my findings openly to the public.
RN: Right. When did you actually make your first batch of hemp oil?
RS: The first batch I made was back in the early 90’s. It was before I was ever injured because back in the 80’s I used to eat a little bit of hash. I found that I liked eating hash. I started looking into ways, instead of smoking it, to make your own hash and possibly make your own oil. I did make my own hash and it did work very well, but the first time I made the oil I ruined about a kilo, which is two pounds of some good bud. I mean, I totally ruined it. It took me a little while to develop the simple ways of doing it. If people just follow the instructions we put up there, they can make their own medicine.
RN: Wonderful. Can we talk a little bit about this campaign that I’ve heard of? I hear that you maybe using TV to spread the message? Can you go into that a little bit?
RS: That’s what they are talking about. Hey, radio, TV, whatever it takes to get the message out. The mainstream media, they won’t cover any of this. That’s always been the problem, if the media was doing its job, this wouldn’t be going on. The trouble is the media is all bought and paid for.
RN: Of course. Who has contacted you about this outside of the cannabis movement? I’m just curious.
RS: I’ve had a lot of different people contacting me. I’ve been kind of out of touch over here for the last couple of months in Europe. There have been all kinds of action research groups in all different countries all over the world. There are an awful lot of people interested in this.
RN: What about Wylie Laboratory in Oxford England, are you familiar with it?
RS: No I’m not.
RN: I had just heard that they were doing some promising things with Cannabinoids at this time. I was just wondering if maybe, possibly, you were involved.
RS: Weed World, the big hemp publication out of the UK has been one of the biggest supporters of this. We have a lot of support in England for Cannabinoids as medicine. I just can’t understand why someone would be loony enough to take the Cannabinoids out of medicine in the first place.
RN: Yeah, it doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t.
RS: It does if you want to turn a profit I guess.
RN: Yeah, if life becomes more important than money, I guess that would happen.
RS: Well this is what gets me today. If you look at the doctors who took the Hippocratic Oath: First- do no harm. I shall not administer poisons. If you go to a doctor today the first thing they give you is liver-toxic chemicals, in other words, poison to the liver. Then they’ve got the nerve to treat people with cancer with chemotherapy and radiation. Those are carcinogenic treatments. They cause cancer, they don’t cure it. That’s our medical system, aren’t they doing a great job? The truth is, most doctors, if they get cancer… they wouldn’t take such treatments themselves because they know better.
RN: That’s right. I heard something about a movie, possibly in the works? Is that a reality, or is that something that is just being talked about?
RS: There has been talk two or three times with people who want to do screenplays about all of this. High Times wanted me to write the book for this, so I wrote the book. I just got a copy of their agreement and I don’t like it. They are talking 18 months before the book comes out. My objective would be to get this out much quicker than that, get the information to the people. I don’t think I’ll be going for their deal, but the book is written.
RN: Okay, so what are your alternatives?
RS: I was thinking, if I can swing it somehow I’d like to put it up on the internet for nothing. Just to get the word out there. I don’t know if we can swing it or not because money is very tight. If not, I’m looking for publishers over here that could possibly do the job. We’ll get it out to the public one way or another.
RN: We would like to make sure that we know if people will to donate to the cause, and donate to helping you along with where you are at and what you are doing, where would we send money and where would our readers send money to? Where would you prefer.
RS: They would just send it in to phoenix tears. They have a pay-pal account that they can donate into. They’ll send the money across to me. I’ve been keeping very busy over here. I had two seminars in the Czech Republic in December. I just spoke at the Reflex conference in Prague on the 21st of January. I think they want me in Spain next month for Spannabis. There are a number of countries around here that want me to do seminars. It looks like they’ll keep me busy over here for quite some time.
RN: Sounds like you are well needed.
RS: The medicine is needed. I’m just the messenger, that’s all. People try to blow this out of proportion, trying to make me look like some kind of hero. I’m just the same as any other medicinal user, I need this damn medicine, and I need access to it. The country where I live won’t give me that right.
RN: It seemed those years ago, that Canada was much friendlier toward this issue. It’s kind of strange to us down here to hear stories like this, and those of Marc Emery. We know what the DEA does here, we’re just not really used to hearing about it happening outside of our country in such a “in your face” sort of way.
RS: It is a shame what’s going on in Canada, but Marc Emery is his own worst enemy. I contacted Marc Emery about this back in 2003, seven years ago, and he didn’t do a damn thing.
RN: When you say this, you are referencing to him being in trouble, or the oil?
RS: No I contacted him about the oil back in 2003. Back when we first started sending this information to the governments and ministers of health. I contacted Marc Emery at the same time. Of course, he didn’t do a thing. About a year and a half, maybe 2 years ago, he contacted me wanting me to do an article. I did it, and he wouldn’t print it. So, he’s a strange character. As far as I’m concerned, High Times could put it right on their cover, “Cannabis Cures Cancer”. Marc Emery had a Cannabis Culture Magazine up in Canada. If he had done that, then what would he be guilty of? Selling the seeds to a plant that cures cancer to Americans. That doesn’t sound like a very serious crime.
RN: Yeah, you don’t hear about people being busted for seeds very often, it is strange.
RS: It seems like Marc Emery is all about his own ego. I don’t know what to make of the guy.
RN: Well I’ve heard people say things that he does speak kind of loudly and sometimes when it isn’t necessary. He’s a hero to some.
RS: Every time he’s on TV or anything, he’s standing there sucking on a big bong. Nothing is going to get legalized medicinally by doing that. You know, you have to show the people the real medicine and that’s what the oil is, it’s real medicine. I mean, smoking isn’t going to cure you. It does help with certain medical conditions. It does have certain medical values to some extent. You don’t get the real magic until you start ingesting the real unburned THC.
RN: I believe there is much truth to that. I do appreciate the chance. I know it’s not easy to take the time out to talk to everybody. You are a hero to us a MCJ. Do you have anything that you would like to add, or say to our readers?
RS: The main thing, people have to realize that have to make the change. They have to stand up and demand their rights. This is a natural medicine that was used for thousands of years. Nobody has the right to tell them that they don’t have the right to grow and possess this medicine. That’s insanity. If people understood what this medicine actually does, there would be a revolution in five minutes. This medicine works for everything. These so called “incurable diseases” like diabetes, MS, arthritis, they are all curable. All they have to do is use the oil. It doesn’t interfere either. Once you are used to this stuff, you don’t even know it’s in ya. It’s not addictive and not harmful in any way. If you use the oil, the only thing you are guaranteeing yourself is that you will live a longer and healthier life.
RN: Well we absolutely agree with you. Thanks so much for taking the time.
Check out Rick Simpson at www.phoenixtears.ca
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